Talk:Black Alice/@comment-24.187.74.28-20140206043256

Ilias and Eden constantly refer to Black Alice as a fox, so I think she is actually related to kitsunes somehow. Otherwise you have to wonder why they mention that. I can see her being a lamia too because the other Fateburns appear to be lamias.

That incident was probably her falling in love with a hero. I don't think it was Heinrich but rather another one. I also think she was very likely at fault herself, pushing the hero and then killing him. At the end of the game Luke and Alice do discuss her, and Alice states after Black Alice the Monster Lord can seal herself and marry a human. That rule would not have happened unless it somehow related to Black Alice. Likely she fell in love but was too strong to get married, and then got unhinged for it.

This is also however a contradiction from what Alice states earlier that monsters don't care about their fathers, and her mother just raped a guy and probably let him live and she didn't care. She clearly does want to get married, and it apparently was a big deal to Black Alice too, enough so Tamamo had to change the rules.

I doubt it's Heinrich because it's said he ended her brutal reign, she probably was not brutal until that incident happened. It's strange she'd hate humans so much for it afterwards, it's also possible similar to the Mermaid Queen's story, that the human she was in love with was killed by humans for his association with her. Since she couldn't abdicate her throne and live with him she was just mad at the humans and also just angry in general. Or Torotoro just didn't really think about it much, and it won't ever be explained and we're overanlyzing it.

I thought it was interesting though. Since even Ilias gets sympathy at the end, and Promestein's backstory is sympathetic too, I don't really believe that Black Alice's wouldn't be as well. The game always makes the females sympathetic.