Talk:Alice/@comment-24439699-20140209193804/@comment-24439699-20140210021700

well yeah i am against co-existence. the fact that one human is the reason that its created. Shows how out balanced it is. I say make monsters submissive to the point where the only thing they are good at is sex. Use angels as allies for hummanity. Use illias then kill her, along with alice and four knights. Then that would be peace.

Damn. Now i sound like a bad guy.. or a idiot. maybe both.

But. here is the way i see it. And it goes with another post. We get the information that most monster lords gave up positions to be with humans. (besides 1st, 8th, 12th, 15th, and 16th) But the 15th decided, that unlike all her other precestors, she would go around killing humans in order for them to kill her, creating co-existence? I mean, its basically stated illias caused this belief, but why in ilias name would you beleive this if none of the other monster lords did? Then her daughter gets on to that same belief, even going against luka belief up till the end of part 2. So yeah, they are both idiots for not questioning this "path" to co-existence. But that being said,  why would humans actually believe that only the monster lord has to be killed? Acoording to the fact that everyone (besides Cassendra) respected and followed both the 15th and 16th... then humainty SHOULD assume that monsters are also to blame for causing this, for following the monster lord "blindly". (following their standars of strongest creatures, they must follow) So therefore, humainy, since they know monsters follow other monsters who are stronger (AKA monster lord) should have also attacked them, including the queens, for not standing up to this plan. Only tamo was the one that tried to stop this... so that would have made her ok to humanity.

Thats the problem i see it as, thus its a "stupid" plan.

But there are two problems to this

1. We do not know how the 12th created co-existence. Or how humanity were treated as (co-existence is made, but we don't know if it was made by sex, trying to help each other, or if it happened by fear from humaity standpoint).

2.  Because of the fact that monsters follow those who are stronger, it means that this can be used as an excuse also.