Talk:Grandine/@comment-2037710-20130821083422/@comment-24213553-20131209205005

Only Black Alice (final form). You need to summon Salamander as the counter for her Grandine -> Elimination: Stroke combo. Without Salamander this is 1-turn-KO. With Salamander - normal attack, hit 1 time.

The mechanic of "how Salamander counter Grandine" is still unknown. :)

IMHO, even with Grandine = more hits + 100% evade the result will be similar. Because the standard counter from Grandine (w/o Salamander) is Guard.