Talk:Alice/@comment-75.62.114.245-20140520225159/@comment-110.55.3.131-20140613171342

"Hero's. How do they become that? Ilias.  Is that not a connection? Between Granberia and Hero's, Illias baptism? Why she was there in the first place? You know... to stop the baptim's themselves..."

I seriously don't see the point being made here. Can you stay in one topic at a time? Or at least say what you're replying about is.

"and you are acting like luka had free will after being raped four times."

How can he not have free will AFTER the rape? Well, sure he passes out and all, but I don't think you were referring to that.

"The first one where he was the most strong about it, and then it slowly  decreases..."

What's that supposed to mean? Yeah, sure he was raped, but like I said in the previous post, he actually enjoyed it. It's not like he's being burned alive while being raped or something (OK, that's weird). Also, if he's so against it, he can turn down Alice when she approached him at part 3. Remember that he's stronger than any one point in the previous parts, and Alice is not even able to use a tenth of her power. If he (truly) doesn't want to have sex with Alice, he can at least reject her and she won't be able to do anything about it. The fact that he even felt comfortable while they're at it speaks a lot on his opinion of it.

"Remember his last words in part 2? Remember what he says about the Monster Lord?

That is mind control..."

How come? By this point in time, it's pretty much established that they're an unofficial couple, so there won't be any chance of backstabbing from Alice. Also, know ('remember' is too overused by now XD) that Alice is the most powerful being (except for Illias) you've ever met since the beginning of the game. Alice is also someone Luka trusts completely, as she's arguably the one that knows him the best and he also knows Alice more than anybody (except maybe for Tamamo). They also share the same goal of coexistence. So, mind control? Nah. For the fact that the spirits won't be affected by it, and thus should've been able to do something to prevent it or at least tell Luka when they reunited. And also, Alice's Eye techniques should've been weaker by the time she was sealed, as seen in Lazarus' case. It won't be enough to affect Luka, especially after getting his power. What he said may seem like an overstatement, but he really didn't lose a single fight (in canon) since then, so it is still true.