Talk:Alice/@comment-75.62.114.245-20140520225159/@comment-110.55.3.131-20140613045656

"he is TRYING to make a better world.  He is TRYING to do something... "

Yes. However, like I previously stated, their methods are different, and if one fails, the other doesn't need to help. She's already helping Luka with his training, and pointing out the Four Spirits, Orbs, Galda, etc. If he can't win with those help, he's really not fit for the role of leading the world to peace. After all, many monsters won't obey anybody weaker than them. This is one of the reason for the Monster Lord selection test.

"Alice, who has an obligation as a monster lord to help monsters, doesn't even do that most of the time."

Not doing anything at that moment doesn't necessarily mean they're not THINKING of ways to solve it. The word emphasized is the one the Hero lacked the most. Also, some of the monsters have reasons for attacking Luka, especially the Queens. She seriously can't just simply side with Luka if she doesn't even know what to do to the both sides after nearly sealing them, can she?

"but they are the ones that get the most character development out of their race"

Like all the other games/movies/anime, the ones with most screentime are the ones who you can notice the character develop.

"There isn't all much much redeeming about them by the end of the game, a lot of what they did by the third part can be looked at as self preservation in the face of mutually assured destruction"

Indeed it is. However, a bond has been formed due to the act of selfish self preservation as stated in the epilogue.

"Tamamo test got thrown in and made me just end up hating monsters all over again"

Since this is Tamamo's test, let's just judge this based on what she did. Remember that she explicitly asked Luka if he wanted to be a mate, unlike what many others need. If she didn't, then that's an another matter. As for the others, Alice already knows that Luka has been much more sensitive to these things than she is. After all, he can sense people fighting on other dimensions, people dying inside an enclosed mansion by just passing by it while he's in the sky, even implied to be able to read (sense?) emotions, etc. You catch the drift. If you can't sense something like (sometimes glaringly obvious) lust from other monsters (which, by the way, you've been doing almost all the time since getting Undine to work), you could ask the quention on how you could even have saved the world in the first place.