Talk:Black Alice/@comment-24862435-20150724192033/@comment-5299683-20150725025452

Hmm. I don't remember Black Alice saying that just before you fight her in Heaven. But I was so fixated on going Patrick Bateman on her scrawny, slimy ass, I didn't even care. Vore my waifu, and sully my favorite Disney heroine, will you? Let's see you rule over creation when I sink a boat anchor into your thick skull you mangy little-

Ahem.

My pet theory was that Black Alice and Heinrich were set to be married. But Heinrich either failed, or for whatever reason, didn't go through the "trials" that Tamamo insists on putting the Monster Lord's suitors through. Who knows? Maybe he wasn't keen on the idea behind them, since they do involve manipulating him and putting his life on the line for no good reason. Whatever happened, based on what Lilim and Lilith said, they made it sound like it was his fault, somehow.

Speaking of those two, also note when Tamamo is recruiting monsters to test Luka's fidelity, she asks the Succubus Chief, not Lilim and Lilith, who are supposed to be the saviors for the succubi race. In fact, they don't show up at all in the rape scene, which is kind of odd. Maybe putting Luka through the same song and dance Heinrich went through would've brought back bad memories for Lilim and Lilith. Or maybe Tamamo didn't turn to them because they would've told Luka what was really going on. Or maybe they were left out because they were drawn by a different artist than the other succubi were, and I'm reading too much into this. But still, their absence is noticeable.

Either way, as much damage as Ilias has done, there's no real evidence to suggest she had anything directly to do with this. She just knew how to cash in on it and work it to her advantage. If Ilias had any direct role in this, I would think Micaela would've mentioned it. If you ask me, based on the marriage customs of the monster lord, and her personality in general, I say Black Alice ain't got nobody but herself to blame. Well, maybe Tamamo, for instituting these dumb trials in the first place. But whatever.