Talk:Grandine/@comment-2037710-20130821083422/@comment-85.204.3.112-20131210101323

>Using the flow, Grandine makes her wielder's attacks hit multiple times.

So the monster can now attack several times, and if "using the flow" means what I think it means, it also makes attacks harder to dodge and it also makes them target inherent weak spots, so sylph and undine can't help you dodge as well, and gnome's defense is bypassed somewhat.

> However, Grandine does not seem to improve her wielder's avoidance rate.

Then, technically, Salamander can counter Grandine because it empowers Luka, and as such he can finish off a monster using Grandine faster (killing it faster -> the enemy doesn't attack you as many times.

And since the enemy can't read your moves, Salamander's weakness doesn't come into play.