Talk:Goddess Ilias/@comment-38525506-20190304145214/@comment-38860347-20190319234753

"You DO REALIZE that, creating a humanoid intelligent being from the mid air via sunbeams and going through sexual reproduction with mutual feelings is two completely different things right?"

No, they're not. At least not entirely. Ilias is the physical manifestation of holy power itself. Lucifina is separated from her as a daughter-clone with a will of her own. Angels are still entirely physical manifestations of the holy element. She is for all intents and purposes Ilias' daughter.

You're effectively saying that Luka only has a father, but doesn't have a mother because the angel side of him is just sunrays and whatever. That doesn't make sense. Lucifina imparted that holy element into Luka, just as Ilias imparted the holy element(Herself) into the manifestation of Lucifina. It's almost as if Ilias gave Lucifina a copy of her genes like when a human mother gives their child a copy of half their genes. Strange, huh?

And a child born of rape is still the child of that mother. Luka is still the descendant of Heinrich even if his feelings towards him are second-hand. Feelings has nothing to do with it. You can deny your parentage all you like, that won't change reality.

I get the feeling people just have an aversion with the idea that Ilias is Luka's grandmother simply because there is a sex scene between them. It doesn't change the nature of their relationship to one another just because people don't like it. With all of the tentacle rape and shota semen farming, incest is what gets them... That's some strange standards people are drawing.

And this wikia seems to agree with me. "the descendant of the legendary hero Heinrich (on Marcellus' side) and Goddess Ilias (on Lucifina's side)," Even if you don't want to call her his grandmother, he is still a second generation separated from Ilias. Heck, call her his aunt, if you really want to.